I personally will never buy another Valley product. I bought a brand new Valley Nordkapp poly boat. The hatches are amazing. And the way they layer the poly makes the boat very strong and rigid for a poly boat. However, in my case Valley provided me with a boat that had a warped stern. Given the lines of the boat I didn't realize it when I picked the boat up. Valley would NOT warranty the boat. They basically told me to go "F" myself. I can assure you that in no way did I damage the boat. Even the owner of the store could tell that no one damaged the boat and he agreed with me that it looked like this issue occurred during production. The owner did take the boat back and I got a Tempest 170 instead. But the owner of the store absorbed the loss on the boat. I don't think it was fair to him. Any company that sells a product but won't stand by their product won't receive my business. Valley can kiss my butt. I am just glad I didn't end up being out nearly $2000.00.