A vertical scull for support?

Admittedly, Warren and I have argued about paddles and technique every now and again when I run into him at Deception Pass but sculling up to collect you wits is what made my roll reliable in the first place and I always encourage people to learn it as it's another tool in the box.

Also, I do teach a shortened forward stroke that ends at the hip, though it's not at all close to the boat. It tends to be closer to the wake line. I've never seen anyone teach a racing forward stroke except in a racing class.