Carl,
Thank you for stepping in and cooling things off. As you said this is not the type of "discussion" we are are used to seeing on this forum. In fact this is the first time we've seen it in the five years the forum has been open.

I would ask that we all abide by the forum rules - which do allow for disagreement and dislikes. By the rules of this forum a few of the preceding posts should be removed. I would ask instead that both parties consider editing their posts to include only the constructive discussion we all can learn from and have all come to enjoy.

You both make some good points relative to your point of view and it would be a shame to loose that discussion.

Mikekayak

Thanks
Michael
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Sea Kayaker Magazine
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