Jeez, Katabatic, I told you to take the day off and have a long, relaxing paddle. Hope you feel better after the weekend. I know getting the Epic story wrong really must have stung (I like Chairman Mao, the Great Helmsman's advice to "Learn truth from facts!"), and not believe everything a rep tells you), but why vent your spleen on poor Magooch? Everybody knows his thing about NC kayaks, just like your thing is an obsession with the minutiae of boat specs ad nauseam.